And to be more specific about Jon's comments:

STRENGHT
250: Once per battle can apply a cumulative 25% damage reduction to an attack as long as it doesn't exceed your power or strength in x1.2.
500: Can do the one above twice per battle.
1.000: Can do the ones above against somethign x1.3 times as strong as yourself.
2.000: Can do the ones above against somethign x1.5 times as strong as yourself.

SPEED
250: Once per battle can slap away a blast at x1.2 times your power.
500: Can do the one above twice per battle.
1.000: Can do the ones above against somethign x1.3 times as strong as yourself.
2.000: Can do the ones above against somethign x1.5 times as strong as yourself.

INTELLIGENCE
Every 500 Int: Gains +1 extra use. { Human's Racial: gains +1 every 400 int }
Every 1.000 Int: +1 move change.

SENSING
100: Sight speed x1.3
200: Has a sixth sense { may feel ki in a radius of 1 mile, though cannot precise the position or direction or the level of the ki being sensed }
400: Sight speed x1.4
500: Choose 1 sense to be your best sensing { works about ten times more efficiently }.
600: Sight speed x1.5
800: May feel ki in a radius of 100 miles { if sixth sense is your best sensing, then planetary wise }
1.000: Sight speed x1.6
1.500: May feel ki planetary wise { if sixth sense is your best sensing, then universally wise }
2.000: Sight Speed x1.7
2.500: Works like a walking scouter, best sensing can't be tricked in any means and may feel the energy of innanimate
objects.
3.000: Sight Speed x1.8
3.500: If Vision is your Best Sense: Can see the colors of one person's aura, being able to tell everything about their personality and alignment

If Hearing is your Best Sense: Has a sonar type sensing { like konat-jins' } allowing blind fighting at natural speed + sight speed bonus

If Smelling is your Best Sense: No one can hide his / her presence for you as you can track them down through smelling

If Touch is your Best Sense: You can tell whatever happened in one area by simply touching the ground and can feel the Earth's movements allowing a blind fight at your speed + half of your sight speed bonus

If Sixth Sense is your Best Sense: Even when it says "unsenseable" you are able to feel it

4.000: Foresight; May see moments in the future in the battle, allwoign you to add 25% of your sensing stat to your speed.

As I said before though, I'm ok with 2 or 3 (but I lean towards 3.)

EDIT: As an example of that pain in the butt I was talking about, the stat requirements on quests would need to all be brought down into proper alignment with the new stat system.

Give us an end game pl cap. I don't really care what it is tho i am in favor of the suggested 15 billion.

no training boundaries. its unnecessary and we don't really need it. i don't want to have to hold off my training based on someone's pl. thats what an end game pl cap wud be useful for.

and if we think about it, most rpgs have a lvl cap either way. whether its 100 in pokemon or 60 in Golden Sun.

new lower gain system: i like it. now we gotta work harder to get stronger. i just hope that grav/HBTC/FT gains stay the same (while being lowered to reflect the new lowered gains.)

ummm yeh i'm sure that's basically it.

It would be like training a pokemon who only learns a new move every 30-40 levels. It would get extremely tedious real quick.

The time period from the invasion of Radditz to the end of the Frieza saga was maybe two years and saw base powerlevels go from 300ish to about one million. (At least, I believe so.. If I remember right Frieza's full power form's PL was 40,000,000 and SSJ is always said to grant base x 50 PL.)

The percentile increase in that period is astronomical, far far less than going from ten thousand to ten million.

(Note I'm not advocating a lightning gains system, I'm content with option 2. But I will confess, option 3, one discussed prior to posting by a committee of 5 members I might add, with people on both sides of the cap fence, is by far the best option in my mind. It requires the virtually no changes to the site as a whole, while adding an element of restraint to those who are working harder (without telling them that their endeavors mean nothing in terms of growth like the caps did.)

The only thing that saddens me is it seems there's been virtually no discussion of option 3 on this thread, it's been virtually ignored, perhaps because it was come up with by members, I can't say, but I'd like to think it warrants discussion as well ^^

I'm not talking about the final cap, mind you. I'm talking about getting from level 1 move to my level 2.

With the flipped gaining proccess it would take months to move up a power level bracket once you get in the millions, as Fellipe has just demonstrated.

Option three has its merits. I don't really care which way we go with, though I suppose option 3 would be the easiest, as it will only punish those at the top of the pl spectrum and not those at the bottom as they trail behind and hit the various "Speed Bumps" that the higher ups just passed.

With a universal speed bump thing, those who skyrocket ahead will hit the speed bump and get slower, yes. But so will the slower players when they finally reach that point. So it really doesn't accomplish anything.