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2025-07-06, 9:23 PM |
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That_Brazilian_Guy | Date: Tuesday, 2010-03-09, 11:10 AM | Message # 61 |
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| 5 votes for option 3 {Ryder, Riano, Shini, Max, Kryeed } 2 votes for number two { Kenny, Lance } There won't be caps. It was voted on and decided that what would change is the words system. And the progression will be the one above. I suggested fixing the progression on level to reach lv 7 at 1.000.000 instead of 4.000.000 exactly because it might take a rel long time to learn things with the new system. If you think there will be painful gaps at some points, vote either 1 or 2, where I'll lower the pl requirements for hings, making ppl reach the lv 7, when they can learn their ultimate and such at 1 mil base pl rather than 4 mil. THe words gains won't be made any faster. Quote -_- im sorry but i dont see why people are getting penalized for being good writers. those who write well and write a lot get more pl, thats how a gains system works. in a text rp, when you have a gains system, you base their gains off of their text, otherwise the rp falls apart. by making the system like either of the two options you are quickly lifting those who rarely post up to the sunlight while stomping those who post a lot into the ground so those who rarely post wont complain this system seems to be rewarding failure and punishing success Excuse me, but I don't see where you're getting this from. The system is based off the ammount of words you write, without any kind of cap. The more you write, the more you gain. Please explain yourself. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'll try to be more specific about the things that happens in each vote as it seems people aren't getting it at all: Number One -Stat Points will be capped at 10.000.000, while pl will continuously increase, meaning ater 10 mil pl will play the major role in fights. At Words /5 it's highly impropable that anyone will get a substantial advantage over anyone anyways so soon. -Instead of only attaining lv 7 at 4 mil base pl, you'll reach lv 7 at 1.000.000 pl, learning new things a little faster than before. -Naturally the effects you get for having X on a single stat will be earned earlier too. Number Two -Stat Points will be capped at 10.000.000, while pl will be capped at 15.000.000. -Instead of only attaining lv 7 at 4 mil base pl, you'll reach lv 7 at 1.000.000 pl, learning new things a little faster than before. -Naturally the effects you get for having X on a single stat will be earned earlier too. Number Three -Nothing changes, only the words gain.
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Ehecatl | Date: Tuesday, 2010-03-09, 4:50 PM | Message # 62 |
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| I vote for number one or two. Both would be perfectly fine with me. I realize it'll take more work to get everything right, but the grind from level 6 to level 7 moves would be to painful if we didn't change the move requirements.
I will not back a step away from that hoard-guardian. We two shall end as fate decrees. -Beowulf
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Kyrt_Ryder | Date: Tuesday, 2010-03-09, 4:55 PM | Message # 63 |
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| Personally I don't understand why the stat gains and PL totals have to be capped so low in order to change the word gains and tweak the 'levels' slots.
Message edited by Kyrt_Ryder - Tuesday, 2010-03-09, 4:57 PM |
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Ehecatl | Date: Tuesday, 2010-03-09, 5:00 PM | Message # 64 |
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| Eh, stats going on and on forever was kind of annoying. Especially in the upper millions where a minor 1 mill pl difference gave a decent sized stat difference. The game shouldn't be entirely based around stats. >.> Making the stat gains stop sooner will make fights more about skill and less about grinding words. If you're going to bring up the demon racials thing to point out they become weak beyond all reason with a pl cap, you can just pick number one. That will stop them from stating it up, sure. But their pl WILL grow faster than anyone else, and give them an overall advantage there.
I will not back a step away from that hoard-guardian. We two shall end as fate decrees. -Beowulf
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Kyrt_Ryder | Date: Tuesday, 2010-03-09, 5:06 PM | Message # 65 |
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| You have a point Ehe, but honestly, I already find the massive gap between Ki and other stats really weird to me. Making the gap wider just feels... odd. But, I suppose that number 1 from the most recent list presented seems a reasonable alternative. (My vote still goes with three though)
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Ehecatl | Date: Tuesday, 2010-03-09, 5:19 PM | Message # 66 |
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| ANyway, I vote for lowering the move requirements. To big of a gap to span with such small gains later on. And I'd like to have my full move list within a reasonable amount of time >.>
I will not back a step away from that hoard-guardian. We two shall end as fate decrees. -Beowulf
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Kyrt_Ryder | Date: Tuesday, 2010-03-09, 5:21 PM | Message # 67 |
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| I've got no complaints against lowering the move requirements ^^
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Kryeed | Date: Tuesday, 2010-03-09, 6:05 PM | Message # 68 |
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| option 1. but ehe o.o option 1 and 2 arent very different, seeing as even for a demon player, assuming you had EVERYTHING, you'd need 2 and a half million words to get to 15 mil. and yeah it stops becoming a power/stat race at the cap >.> but what good is an extra 50% pl if someone pumped a bit more speed in that what you can mess with (not to mention a wide ammount of things can stop the attacks even at 50% more pl, such as android body racial)
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Ehecatl | Date: Tuesday, 2010-03-09, 6:20 PM | Message # 69 |
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| Use consecutive attacks to beat androids. And as for the speed thing, thats your fault for not putting points into speed. We all end up with the same amount of stats to distribute. If someone is beating you in a stat, chances are you are beating them in a stat as well. And in the case of android upgrades, at end game that 500 point advantage isn't as massive as it is at our current level. You can't tell me a 50% pl advantage is not a huge advantage. You'd be launching normal energy attacks on par with your opponent's signature moves. O.o And your actual sig moves would be over double the enemy pl. Thats devestatingly strong, even to an android with racial armor. And if you invested in a defensive move that blocks all attacks up to your powerlevel, your opponent would be hard pressed to find a way to really hurt you with anything less than his ultimate attacks. >.> And of course, you'd have the same level of energy defense as an android does, with the difference of having your defensive boon also be able to be used offensively, since its a base pl advantage. The only way to really hurt your guy would be strength based attacks, and those are hard to land if you work at having enough ranged fire power.
I will not back a step away from that hoard-guardian. We two shall end as fate decrees. -Beowulf
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Kyrt_Ryder | Date: Tuesday, 2010-03-09, 6:20 PM | Message # 70 |
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| Ouch... that's a good point Kryeed... androids become close to invincible with a cap like that, ESPECIALLY since Fellipe told Ehecatl that androids could break the cap by 50% because of their racial fusion thing.
Message edited by Kyrt_Ryder - Tuesday, 2010-03-09, 6:21 PM |
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Ehecatl | Date: Tuesday, 2010-03-09, 6:24 PM | Message # 71 |
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| And now you two are trying to say I only want caps for personal gains. -_- Don't even try to say you aren't. I don't think anyone here would believe you after the way you specifically mentioned that Fellipe told ME about the cap break thing. Dirty politics should be left to presidential elections, not a rp forum.
I will not back a step away from that hoard-guardian. We two shall end as fate decrees. -Beowulf
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Kyrt_Ryder | Date: Tuesday, 2010-03-09, 6:41 PM | Message # 72 |
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| Ehe. I only mentioned how I knew because it was second-hand information. I couldn't say Fellipe told me that, because he didn't. You were the only way I knew what had been said. I'm not going to lie about my sources to appear politically correct.
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Ehecatl | Date: Tuesday, 2010-03-09, 6:47 PM | Message # 73 |
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| You went out of your way to point out androids become invinsible with a cap. Not stronger or more powerful, but invincible. And by saying Fellipe told me specifically implies that the power is the primary rationality behind my desire for limitations on growth. You cannot hide your intentions, your words were all to obvious. No matter how well you try to cover it up now. And for the sake of defending my name, I'd also like to say I have actually spoken to Fellipe about removing the android stat upgrades because I felt they were a bit much. Its his desision to keep them, not mine. You can nerf androids if you like. Remove their upgrade abilities. Get rid of their racial armor. Even make them magically sensable. I'll still be playing one, because I chose my race because I enjoyed the androids from the anime this forum is based off of.
I will not back a step away from that hoard-guardian. We two shall end as fate decrees. -Beowulf
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Kyrt_Ryder | Date: Tuesday, 2010-03-09, 6:54 PM | Message # 74 |
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| Jimmy, I am sick and fucking tired of you trying to read intentions into my words. I'm done talking to you if your going to keep trying to come up with shit that I supposedly intend.
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Kryeed | Date: Tuesday, 2010-03-09, 6:55 PM | Message # 75 |
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| Hold on Jimmy, i'm just trying to point out flaws in races, we both chose these races before anything had been changed. if you're trying to slander my name, go ahead, but i've only been trying to figure out where its being more fair and controlled here. I can name a number of issues with androids so far. added stats over anyone else can get making it harder for them to be overcome, not that bad, but with racial trace, they could get +2 ranks in the gravity chamber (or the natural +1 and an added X1.2 for gravity training) there's been talk of taking a fifth limb through mechanical limb from the android shop (a racial for cash), if they take a konat blade racial through the trace, they automatically get a 30% boost to their power level from holding a sword. also about racial trace, o.o why are all the demons racials able to be picked? also, they can snatch the changeling space breathing. The issue of the android coating with the .5 piercing/slashing penalty, either the pages arent clear, or its acceptable, they could wear normal clothing like a gi or tunic, and have .7 piercing to slashing/piercing. their level absorbers are 50% their powerlevel, which even IF someone got two million extra words, androids still have nearly full range of absorbing the attacks. Their racial allows someone to make a starter henchman and get them to 10 mil pl (which is much easier than getting some five million words of training) and just android fuse them together for whatever they learned and getting a total of 20 mil along with whatever someone wanted to teach both of them independently. sensing an android is also a huge investment, and requires a choice between the other rather useful skills (and sensing as the best sense is nearly useless to evil people who don't want to blow an LA on a variant of BT) Not saying your out for personal gain, i'm saying races are horridly dis balanced with a cap or pseudo cap (option one) in place
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