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| That_Brazilian_Guy | Date: Sunday, 2010-02-28, 3:49 AM | Message # 1 |
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| The vote is for a definitive set up, so the need for all the changes can be finally settled and hopefully stoped. As you know there's the issue concerning the PL cap, which despite what ppl may think, it's not carved in stone yet. I would like you to vote between sticking with the training caps... or this idea that was brought up. The cap idea can be seen in the "Training Boundaries?" thread. And the other idea is to instead of capping training, just reduce as people increase in power. Below I'll post all the details and everything this may bring along and I will try to be as clear as I can be: TRAINING GAINS
0-99.999 pl: Words
100.000-999.999 pl: Words /2
1.000.000-9.999.999 pl: Words /3
10.000.000+ pl: Words /4 STAT GAIN
Stat gain caps at 10.000.000 were you'll have a maximum of 15.000 stats to distribute. 16.000 if you weither bought upgrades { prices will go down, though so will the boost they give } , trained with Dabura or did the Ultra Divine Holy Water quest. The giains will be reduced to +250 all stats only. Meditations will also cap at 10.000.000. Pl will never cap, though. This will imply and proportial reductions on the sensing stat concerning when you get a "sensing ability" and naturally the same will be done to the other stats. REQUIREMENTS
All the requirements based on pl will be lowered. For example, the leveling up: Lv 1: 0-9.999
Lv 2: 10.000 - 49.999
Lv 3: 50.000 - 99.999
Lv 4: 100.000 - 399.999
Lv 5: 400.000 - 699.999
Lv 6: 700.000 - 999.999
Lv 7: 1.000.000+ You would earn a second level 2 move at 30.000 pl, a second lv 4 at 250.000 and a second lv 6 at 850.000. All races get their racial moves at 1.000.000, while aliens get it at 2.000.000. Saiyan Transformations:
SSJ 1: Can learn 75.000 base pl
SSJ 2: Can learn 550.000 base pl
SSJ 3: Can learn 1.000.000 base pl
SSJ 4: Can learn 2.000.000 base pl through the racial quest. Unlocked Potential, for races like Humans and Aliens, instead of getting the lv 7 transformation boost at 5.000.000, they will get it at 2.000.000. And that's it. Comments wanted, suggestions appreciated. Vote for which of the two things you think it's better:
1: Training Caps
2: The new word gains. Thanks for your attention and sorry for any inconvenience.
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| Kryeed | Date: Sunday, 2010-02-28, 3:59 AM | Message # 2 |
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| 2. new word gains, cuz cap's are really really gay
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| Kyrt_Ryder | Date: Sunday, 2010-02-28, 4:01 AM | Message # 3 |
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| I rather like the new gains system. Smaller numbers makes life simpler, and the stronger somebody gets the slower they grow. Works for me.
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| Ehecatl | Date: Sunday, 2010-02-28, 4:08 AM | Message # 4 |
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| I dislike the idea that there is NO cap. Even if stats stop. Eventually people's pls will just keep expanding and so on... And well, the pl grind will never end. Ultimately not having a power cap means that you will never hit a point where everyone is even. So those who can amass thousands of words a day will still dominate everyone else. The only thing this does is make it harder for those who already have problems typing large posts from getting stronger later in the game.
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| Kyrt_Ryder | Date: Sunday, 2010-02-28, 4:11 AM | Message # 5 |
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| Ehe does have a point in terms of the PL stuff. I highly dislike the way PL seems so godly important all the time, compared to simple stats. Blowing things up seems... overvalued. I'm content with there being a cap on the final PL. Maybe setting the cap = 10,000,000 times whatever racial training bonuses the people have? That way those with training boosters (like demons) don't automatically get killed by those with superior combat options. (Also, if your doing this the android stat boosters should be toned down as well.)
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| Kryeed | Date: Sunday, 2010-02-28, 4:18 AM | Message # 6 |
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| as a note ehe, what good is like 1 billion powerlevel attacks if the target in question is so damn fast they never hit xD
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| Ehecatl | Date: Sunday, 2010-02-28, 4:18 AM | Message # 7 |
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| With a cap at 10,000,000 I could probably accept this. It'd be harder to reach, sure. But in the end, we are all equal. Though I'm not sure how I feel about the time it takes to reach max. I'm terrible at math >.> Not sure how I feel about it taking 4 words to get 1 pl at a point in the game where 1,000 words is trivial. >.> That seems painful beyond all rationality.
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| Kyrt_Ryder | Date: Sunday, 2010-02-28, 4:19 AM | Message # 8 |
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| Ehe, if the cap is 10,000,000 then words/4 will never ever happen. The words /4 was for growing beyond 10,000,000
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| Ehecatl | Date: Sunday, 2010-02-28, 4:21 AM | Message # 9 |
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| True. But even /3 I dunno. But I guess that'd just make HBTC that much more valuable.
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from that hoard-guardian.
We two shall end
as fate decrees.
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| Kyrt_Ryder | Date: Sunday, 2010-02-28, 4:22 AM | Message # 10 |
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| At least it IS valuable this way. It sure as hell wasn't with the caps system lol.
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| Shinigami | Date: Sunday, 2010-02-28, 5:02 AM | Message # 11 |
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| hmm after much thought i think 2. there are parts of the caps system i like, but there are also parts i dont.
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| Jez | Date: Sunday, 2010-02-28, 6:38 AM | Message # 12 |
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| Yo rocky, i've got another alternative that everyone on the chat seems to be ok with.
Lets combine both the systems.
So the pl of the 10th player still dictates the gain, but instead of a cap, they just gain a negative multiplier to their training. Eg, if your char is double the pl of the 10th ranked player, pl goes up by words/n
If your char is triple the pl of the 10th ranked player, pl goes up by words/2n if you don't get what i mean, i'll be on msn a lot so ask me there :P
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| Kyrt_Ryder | Date: Sunday, 2010-02-28, 6:41 AM | Message # 13 |
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| That seems a bit too extreme bud, example the current cap system allows the top to be up to 10* or more the bottom at certain points. My idea, was being over the cap imposed a mild negative multiplier on gains (My example was -.2) Meaning, if you were over the cap (as set by the current cap guidelines) your training would be (total gains) * .8 Your thoughts people? EDIT: Ok, looking back, I was way too tired when I wrote that lol, and it didn't quite come out the way I'd planned. The part I'd neglected to include, is that people over the cap would still be training (at) the cap level's multiplier. IE even if somebody broke past 25000 right now, they would not go from words/2 = base gains to words = base gains until the cap had been raised.
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| Shinigami | Date: Sunday, 2010-02-28, 6:46 AM | Message # 14 |
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| whatever the numbers are, it does sound like a decent system. while i like gaining stuff in the begining, towards the end would have to make several thousand word posts to gain any decent pl. so this with the current gain system, not the above looks good.
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| That_Brazilian_Guy | Date: Sunday, 2010-02-28, 12:10 PM | Message # 15 |
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| The idea behind this was to make training harsher. The idea of a pl is rather not needed whether this is the voted system because getting to 11.000.000 will be a pain. If you want math, here it goes: For a saiyan, with maximum boosts, on HBTC, to get + 1mil pl, here's the number of words he's going to need:
Weights { x2 }, Sauna { x1.25 }, Power Growth { x1.2 }; HBTC increase { x4 } - All summed up is x12. Remember that at 10.000.000, your gains are /4. So 12 / 4 = 3. 1.000.000 / 3 = 333.333 words. You would have to write 333.333 words in HBTC to get a +1 mil pl increase. See why it doesn't need a pl cap? The people that like to write a lot still conserve the advantage of getting more pl, yet it won't much them exponentially ahead of other people. But yeah, like it was said, it is open for suggestions.
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